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[edu.t.o] Development


What is WikiCampus?

posts: 8
I think we got some kind of Information deficit here... ;)

Just stumbled across a project named WikiCampus on sf.net. Many tw.o people are in there - and especially edu.tw.o. What is it supposed to be? What's going on there? Is it tw.o based? Please, tell us! sf.net can't give me any information.
posts: 158
Hi amette:

Here it comes some more "historic" information... to keep everybody updated (I wished other people had informed publicly about that here, long ago).

Unluckily George.Geller seems to work with Plone framework, nowadays, to develop this Educational portal in the auspices of the Wikicampus project.

Cheers,

Xavi

-------- Missatge original --------
Assumpte: 	Re: Tiki for Edu
Data: 	Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:42:27 +0000
De: 	epaul@speakeasy.net
A: 	Xavier de Pedro Puente 


Sure!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xavier de Pedro Puente [mailto:xavidp@porthos.bio.ub.es]
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 05:51 PM
> To: epaul@speakeasy.net
> Subject: Re: Tiki for Edu
> 
> Do you mind if I post your message and reply to it through the forums at 
> edu.tw.o?
> http://edu.tikiwiki.org/tiki-forums.php
> Xavi
> 
> En/na epaul@speakeasy.net ha escrit:
> 
> >Hi Xavier,
> >
> >Sorry, for the delay - I've been out of town quite a bit for my regular work 
and have not had much time lately... Anyway, like yourself, I am very interested 
in a Tiki and Moodle type integration. However, I think the current Tiki is very 
bloated with a lot of other things AND to then have to integrate another product 
like moodle.
> >
> >For an Education LMS system, I don't think all the features/funtionaly that are
 (hard coded) in Tiki will make it a good system. The thing with Tiki is that the 
code is not to modular/flexible. Don't get me wrong, I do like Tiki BUT I have issues
 with the modular nature of tiki and all that code that is not flexible to clean up 
and it could be rather slow for performance.
> >
> >Now, I have recently been looking into TikiPRO (tikipro.org) which is a re-write
 of tiki BUT there goal is to make it more modular. And, there design is a LOT more
 flexible to integrate other packages/programs. I would recommend you take a look 
at tikipro.
> >
> >Also, I am not much of a programmer. The problem I had in the past is finding 
programmers who are also have interest in Education to commit time to do what I 
have in mind. 
> >
> >Let me know your thoughts on the above!
> >
> >Evan
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Xavier de Pedro Puente [mailto:xavidp@porthos.bio.ub.es]
> >>Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:14 AM
> >>To: epaul@speakeasy.net
> >>Subject: Re: Tiki for Edu
> >>
> >>Hi Evan,
> >>
> >>Ok, I'll look forward to hearing (reading) from you soon.
> >>I've just got an e-mail from George, who is going to use plone + moodle 
> >>as educational portal.
> >>Are you still planning to use Tiki + any LMS (moodle, atutor, .LEARN, 
> >>dokeos, ...)?
> >>I'm still interested in using Tiki + LMS, because for our university, 
> >>it's easier to use Tiki that Plone (we already have php installed on 
> >>oficial servers, but not Zope, etc.). And I could't get thorugh Zope 
> >>myself months ago when I tried installing it on my machine...
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>
> >>Xavier
> >>
> >>En/na epaul@speakeasy.net ha escrit:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Hi Xavier,
> >>>
> >>>Glad to hear from you! I have been out of town and just now catching up 
on emails. It's late at night for me here. I will respond to your email below 
with some comments soon!
> >>>
> >>>Evan
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Xavier de Pedro Puente [mailto:xavidp@porthos.bio.ub.es]
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2005 10:29 AM
> >>>>To: george_geller@speakeasy.net, epaul@speakeasy.net, steen@commstds.ucla.edu
> >>>>Subject: Re: Tiki for Edu
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi George,
> >>>>(cc Evan, Francis)
> >>>>
> >>>>How is the moodle-in-tiki project going?
> >>>>
> >>>>Do you need any financial suport? (I can contribute right now with some 
> >>>>personal money, not much though). Hopefully, if we get our new projects 
> >>>>funded, we might get more money to help funding its development, if 
> >>>>moodle-in-tiki is technically feasible.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm personally very interested in the results of the project, since we 
> >>>>(at UniWiki project) are planning to use Tiki for Educational scenarios 
> >>>>at least the following year 2006 (even if we don't get any extra 
> >>>>funding), but moodle is much better for this use, ... and some kind of 
> >>>>moodle-in-tiki would be great.
> >>>>
> >>>>As I told you months ago, we applyied to some funding to the Catalan 
> >>>>government in Spain, for three projects related to the use of web based 
> >>>>technologies for education, and for two of them I was thinking in Tiki 
> >>>>(I will have to convince the other lecturers at uni involved in the 
> >>>>project that Tiki is the right tool to use). If so, we are planning to 
> >>>>invest money in adding features to tiki to help us using it for edu & 
> >>>>our projects. But if moodle gets integrated into Tiki some-how (or they 
> >>>>cooperate with each other some how), then we can direct our efforts (and 
> >>>>money) to moodle development or tunning, o moodle-in-tiki tunninig, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>Ok, I look forward to hearing (reading) from you.
> >>>>
> >>>>Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>>Xavi
> >>>>
> >>>>P.S: Btw, I'm in contact with Francis Steen, because I'd like that 
> >>>>edu.tw.o. is re-activated, somehow. There should be a better 
> >>>>communication between both sub-projects of the Tiki community, I think.
> >>>>
> >>>>En/na George Geller ha escrit: (20 january 2005)
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner or even check my email.  I've been
> >>>>>busy 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>(...)
> >>>>
> >>>>   
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>>>.  I expect
> >>>>>to release a moodle-in-tiki Frakenproject under the auspices of the
> >>>>>wikicampus project (founded by Evan Paul) in the next couple of months.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>George
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 11:02 +0100, Xavier de Pedro Puente wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>     
> >>>>>
> >>>>>          
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi all:
> >>>>>>I resend this message (sent through Tiki internal messaging feature) to 
> >>>>>>the addresses listed at WikiCampus (at sf.net) project (sorry the ones 
> >>>>>>of you that get it twice).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Xavier
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>---------
> >>>>>>Hi Mose, Dennis, George, Javier, Yannick, Dayton, Max, Sylvie, 
> >>>>>>bpfaffenberger, kage, demers, bligneri, Tim, limako, bnuz, mike, baci, 
> >>>>>>Robi, Damian:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I've taken your names either from [http://edu.tikiwiki.org], or 
> >>>>>>((LearningManagementSystemDev)), or 
> >>>>>>[http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=25496&group_id=123746|WikiCampus], 
> >>>>>>and we seem to be some people interested in using tiki as a LMS for 
> >>>>>>Educational use (for teaching and/or learning).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I realized some time ago that edu.tw.o is kind-of-dead project, right 
> >>>>>>now, and Dennis, and George might be very busy since they didn't answer 
> >>>>>>previous messages-comments-questions (maybe they didn't get them?).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I would like to know which is your real interest (from each one of you) 
> >>>>>>in using tiki for education, since I saw no much movement on 
> >>>>>>LMS-related  pages at tw.o.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I might get some more money from our university or government to improve 
> >>>>>>the teaching  related to TIC tools, as some more people might get, and 
> >>>>>>I'm still wondering if Tiki is going to be useful for that issue. It 
> >>>>>>maight be interesting in integrating somehow moodle within tiki? 
> >>>>>>improving homework feature? talk about any roadmap to integrate a scorm 
> >>>>>>compliant module into tiki? include the requested features in LMS-tw.o 
> >>>>>>at some point-tiki-version?...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I think that we need an active space to talk/discuss a bit about this in 
> >>>>>>an open way, so that nobody wastes its time, energy and money using them 
> >>>>>>in the wrong direction, or with the wrong tool or community.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>This space could be either edu.tw.o, is __somebody please update__ the 
> >>>>>>code from 1.8.3 to 1.8.4.1+security patches, and enables a forum there. 
> >>>>>>Or it might be just a forunm in tw.o dedicated to education, if edu.tw.o 
> >>>>>>can not be updated in the short-run?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I'd love to read your opinions...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>(if you want to answer back through tiki to all, you can use copy&paste 
> >>>>>>the following:
> >>>>>>mose,DennisDaniels,george.geller,jreyes,YannickMajoros,daytonclark,MaxPower, 
sylvie,bpfaffenberger,kage,demers,bligneri,TimMansfield,limako,bnuz,mikehough,baci,robi 
> >>>>>>,Damian)


posts: 158
Well, I reply here to Evan Paul, from Wikicampus project.


> En/na epaul at speakeasy.net ha escrit:
>
> >Hi Xavier,
> >
> >Sorry, for the delay - I've been out of town quite a bit for my regular work and have not had much time lately... Anyway, like yourself, I am very interested in a Tiki and Moodle type integration. However, I think the current Tiki is very bloated with a lot of other things AND to then have to integrate another product like moodle.
> >
> >For an Education LMS system, I don't think all the features/funtionaly that are (hard coded) in Tiki will make it a good system. The thing with Tiki is that the code is not to modular/flexible. Don't get me wrong, I do like Tiki BUT I have issues with the modular nature of tiki and all that code that is not flexible to clean up and it could be rather slow for performance.
> >
> >Now, I have recently been looking into TikiPRO (tikipro.org) which is a re-write of tiki BUT there goal is to make it more modular. And, there design is a LOT more flexible to integrate other packages/programs. I would recommend you take a look at tikipro.
> >
> >Also, I am not much of a programmer. The problem I had in the past is finding programmers who are also have interest in Education to commit time to do what I have in mind.
> >
> >Let me know your thoughts on the above!
> >
> >Evan

So far, I stick to Tiki, myself. I've just seen that Tikipro converted into Bitweaver 1.0, but couldn't get everything working right now, for the demo site I've tried, etc.
We'll see the evolution of Tikipro (Bitweaver).

However, I don't know about the coding efforts to have some common authentication system (users, groups and permissions) common among Tiki (or TikiPro) and a LMS such as moodle, dokeos, .LRN, ...

For the time being, I'm lookiing forward to see AulaWiki features upgraded to Tiki 1.9.0 wink (and hopefully, having Homework feature resqued at Tiki 1.9 or 1.10)

It would be very nive, Evan, to keep in contact and informed each others about the evolution of Wikicampus and Tiki for Edu.

Cheers,

Xavi

posts: 1
Many thanks xavi for great articles ............. i was just curious about it, thanks again
posts: 158
> Many thanks xavi for great articles ............. i was just curious about it, thanks again

Welcome. Any doubt still?
Cheers

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